CentOS7/systemd

Hello,

First message here.  I am looking to get off of qmailtoaster (been running it for many, many years) since even it is not well maintained any more.

I am looking at either postfix or exim, and an easy tool to manage them (limited free time=hobby business).  I ran across exim4u and it looks like it might fit the bill.  Other platforms I am looking at are ISPConfig and BlueOnyx (yes, I know, sendmail), Xeams, Virtualmin.  I know all of those are not email only, but I hope I can just ignore the other portions of those application stacks.  I do like that exim4U is first for email, exactly what I want/need.  I do have a couple questions:

1.       Is it maintained and being further developed?  I am not concerned if it is slow development, but what exists should be relatively solid.

2.       Will it run on CentOS7 or other systemd platforms?  Seems they are all pretty much going that way unfortunately.

Thx!

Helmut

Thx for the confidence vote Harold.

Hopefully someone else can chime in on the OS related question and maybe give an opinion on maintenance/development.  I see the latest release was last May(and a gamma release – maybe it is close to stable release?), but before that 2012?

Helmut

Hi!
Maybe that helps your decision: i am running exim4u now rock solid since approx. 6 years after switching from vexim...

In all the time there was only one problem that was caused by an exim update itself and it was solved by Gordon.

So... I can fully recommend exim4u!

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Another thx for the recommendation.  Hopefully my questions do not get missed in all the praise!  J

Hi,

I have run exim4u on Ubuntu since version 8.04 LTS (if I remember well) onwards. It has never had any issue till now. It follows the upgrades....
You can as well use roundcube as user GUI and integrate the administration features with this plugin

http://axel.sjostedt.no/misc/files/rcube_plg_veximaccountadmin.tar.gz

Thanks again to Gordon for this amazing Exim4u

As Harald said I fully recommend exim4u......many many features

Hi!
Maybe that helps your decision: i am running exim4u now rock solid since approx. 6 years after switching from vexim...

In all the time there was only one problem that was caused by an exim update itself and it was solved by Gordon.

So... I can fully recommend exim4u!

Am 4. April 2016 18:39:03 MESZ, schrieb Helmut Fritz [hidden email]:

Hello,

First message here.  I am looking to get off of qmailtoaster (been running it for many, many years) since even it is not well maintained any more.

 

I am looking at either postfix or exim, and an easy tool to manage them (limited free time=hobby business).  I ran across exim4u and it looks like it might fit the bill.  Other platforms I am looking at are ISPConfig and BlueOnyx (yes, I know, sendmail), Xeams, Virtualmin.  I know all of those are not email only, but I hope I can just ignore the other portions of those application stacks.  I do like that exim4U is first for email, exactly what I want/need.  I do have a couple questions:

 

1.       Is it maintained and being further developed?  I am not concerned if it is slow development, but what exists should be relatively solid.

2.       Will it run on CentOS7 or other systemd platforms?  Seems they are all pretty much going that way unfortunately.

 

Thx!

 

Helmut

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Rimas,

Thx for the note.  There is actually quite a bit being committed regularly.  Can anyone tell me hoe often releases are made?  Or do people actually check out the latest stuff?

Old style init scripts are generally still supported, so I guess it should just work.  Would anyone recommend sticking to CentOS6?  Or just go for 7?

Thx for any and all input.

Helmut

Hello,

First message here.  I am looking to get off of qmailtoaster (been running it for many, many years) since even it is not well maintained any more.

 

I am looking at either postfix or exim, and an easy tool to manage them (limited free time=hobby business).  I ran across exim4u and it looks like it might fit the bill.  Other platforms I am looking at are ISPConfig and BlueOnyx (yes, I know, sendmail), Xeams, Virtualmin.  I know all of those are not email only, but I hope I can just ignore the other portions of those application stacks.  I do like that exim4U is first for email, exactly what I want/need.  I do have a couple questions:

 

1.       Is it maintained and being further developed?  I am not concerned if it is slow development, but what exists should be relatively solid.

You can see the commit log here: https://github.com/Exim4U/src/commits/master . As you can see, there is some stuff going on.

2.       Will it run on CentOS7 or other systemd platforms?  Seems they are all pretty much going that way unfortunately.

I don't think there's anything that could stop Exim4U (or Vexim for that matter) from working with systemd-based platforms. After having a quick you look at the list of files shipped by Exim4U, I only found two initscripts ( https://github.com/Exim4U/src/tree/master/etc/init.d ), so I would guess that even if some adjustment would be needed, it wouldn't be that difficult to implement.


Regards,
Rimas

Thx Rimas.

“My exp with CentOS is rather limited, but I wouldn't go for an older release of anything when there's a newer one, unless I knew for a fact that I had really good reasons to stick with the older one.”

Systemd! but no politics and religion here, those two subjects are best left alone for any civility.  J

Helmut

Rimas,

Thx for the note.  There is actually quite a bit being committed regularly.  Can anyone tell me hoe often releases are made?  Or do people actually check out the latest stuff?

I think most of the stuff you can see being committed actually comes from the Vexim project. We (the Vexim project) have been in the process of wrapping up a new release for quite some time already, but there's still some stuff we want to do before releasing and we are (or rather I am) quite slow at actually doing it, so we don't have a due date for that.

My guess is that once we finalize our release, Exim4U is likely to follow with one as well, but it's just a guess. Either way, it's solid enough as it is, and from my observation, Gordon is doing his best at supporting his users with bug fixes and advice.

Old style init scripts are generally still supported, so I guess it should just work.  Would anyone recommend sticking to CentOS6?  Or just go for 7?

My exp with CentOS is rather limited, but I wouldn't go for an older release of anything when there's a newer one, unless I knew for a fact that I had really good reasons to stick with the older one.

Regards,
Rimas

Odhiambo,

You brought up an interesting thought/question.

I have been a CentOS fan for many years, essentially since I moved off of SCO Linux and Solaris(for SPARC).  But now with the implementation of system and its pervasity, I have been looking at/condsidering other OS’es.  BSD and Gentoo are the primary two.

For systemd, most if not all of the mainstream linuxi are already on systemd.  Here are a couple of links for some systemd background:

http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

http://riaschissl.bestsolution.at/2015/07/systemd-the-linux-dilemma-and-why-we-will-migrate-away-from-debian/

Probably best to not bring up opinions on system.  It has and can cause irate comments.

What OS are most people running for vexim and exim4u?

Helmut

I doubt that there are any stats – but maybe Gordon has more info on that one.

Personally, I am running all mail servers with exim4u on FreeBSD.

Maybe you should just give it a shot and install it as trying exim4u gives you more information and “feeling” than all discussion… installing is not that much work.

Valki

Odhiambo,

You brought up an interesting thought/question.

I have been a CentOS fan for many years, essentially since I moved off of SCO Linux and Solaris(for SPARC).  But now with the implementation of system and its pervasity, I have been looking at/condsidering other OS’es.  BSD and Gentoo are the primary two.

For systemd, most if not all of the mainstream linuxi are already on systemd.  Here are a couple of links for some systemd background:

http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

http://riaschissl.bestsolution.at/2015/07/systemd-the-linux-dilemma-and-why-we-will-migrate-away-from-debian/

Probably best to not bring up opinions on system.  It has and can cause irate comments.

What OS are most people running for vexim and exim4u?

Helmut

Harold,

I am pretty much there already – just need to find the time to get it done.  I already have a CentOS minimal install VM ready to go and need to pick a BSD flavor and download it.

Helmut

I doubt that there are any stats – but maybe Gordon has more info on that one.

Personally, I am running all mail servers with exim4u on FreeBSD.

Maybe you should just give it a shot and install it as trying exim4u gives you more information and “feeling” than all discussion… installing is not that much work.

Valki

Odhiambo,

You brought up an interesting thought/question.

I have been a CentOS fan for many years, essentially since I moved off of SCO Linux and Solaris(for SPARC).  But now with the implementation of system and its pervasity, I have been looking at/condsidering other OS’es.  BSD and Gentoo are the primary two.

For systemd, most if not all of the mainstream linuxi are already on systemd.  Here are a couple of links for some systemd background:

http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

http://riaschissl.bestsolution.at/2015/07/systemd-the-linux-dilemma-and-why-we-will-migrate-away-from-debian/

Probably best to not bring up opinions on system.  It has and can cause irate comments.

What OS are most people running for vexim and exim4u?

Helmut

Gordon,

Thx much, yes I have been through the CentOS-new-server dance a 3-4 times over the last 10 years or so.  It is somewhat painful, but doable.

Interestingly enough I just installed a FreeBSD VM this morning and have been ‘playing’ with setting it up for exim4u.  I was almost lost at first, started some googling, etc. and it all started coming back from my Unix days (Sequent, HP and then SPARC). Getting along well with it now, and your recipes help a lot.

I will probably just stick with this if it all works well without too much jumping through hoops.

Thanks for creating/maintaining the exim4u tool, even though I have not quite gotten to using it yet (maybe tomorrow!).

Helmut

I doubt that there are any stats – but maybe Gordon has more info on that one.

Personally, I am running all mail servers with exim4u on FreeBSD.

 

Maybe you should just give it a shot and install it as trying exim4u gives you more information and “feeling” than all discussion… installing is not that much work.

 

Valki

 

 

Von: users [[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Helmut Fritz
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. April 2016 19:16
An: 'Exim4U General Discussion' [hidden email]
Betreff: Re: [Exim4U] CentOS7/systemd

 

Odhiambo,

You brought up an interesting thought/question.

 

I have been a CentOS fan for many years, essentially since I moved off of SCO Linux and Solaris(for SPARC).  But now with the implementation of system and its pervasity, I have been looking at/condsidering other OS’es.  BSD and Gentoo are the primary two.

 

For systemd, most if not all of the mainstream linuxi are already on systemd.  Here are a couple of links for some systemd background:

 

http://0pointer.de/public/gnomeasia2014.pdf

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

 

http://riaschissl.bestsolution.at/2015/07/systemd-the-linux-dilemma-and-why-we-will-migrate-away-from-debian/

 

Probably best to not bring up opinions on system.  It has and can cause irate comments.

 

What OS are most people running for vexim and exim4u?

 

Helmut

 

 

 

From: users [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 3:36 AM
To: Exim4U General Discussion
Subject: Re: [Exim4U] CentOS7/systemd

 

 

On 4 April 2016 at 19:39, Helmut Fritz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

First message here.  I am looking to get off of qmailtoaster (been running it for many, many years) since even it is not well maintained any more.

 

I am looking at either postfix or exim, and an easy tool to manage them (limited free time=hobby business).  I ran across exim4u and it looks like it might fit the bill.  Other platforms I am looking at are ISPConfig and BlueOnyx (yes, I know, sendmail), Xeams, Virtualmin.  I know all of those are not email only, but I hope I can just ignore the other portions of those application stacks.  I do like that exim4U is first for email, exactly what I want/need.  I do have a couple questions:

 

1.       Is it maintained and being further developed?  I am not concerned if it is slow development, but what exists should be relatively solid.

2.       Will it run on CentOS7 or other systemd platforms?  Seems they are all pretty much going that way unfortunately.

 

I don't know what systemd is, but I will google. I use FreeBSD mostly. Exim runs on Ubuntu. However, Exim4U requires just php+apache+mysql IIRC. If those are installable on a systemd OS, then it will run. Exim as an MTA should run on all *nix OS IIRC. So I guess you have no problem ahead with Exim4U. 

 

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