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Odhiambo Washington
Is anyone already usinh exim4u with php55 under Apache24?

I am getting stuck a little.

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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

gldickens3
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Hi Odhiambo,

I've got a FreeBSD 10.1 testing installation and I first tried to use php55 and encountered problems, however, its been awhile since I set it up so I don't remember exactly what the problems were.  To my best recollection,  some extensions or pear modules that I needed were not yet available but I can't say for sure.  In any event, I ended up just swtiching to php5 (5.4.35) instead. I'm using Apache24 without any issues.

FYI,

Gordon



On 12/22/2014 02:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Is anyone already usinh exim4u with php55 under Apache24?

I am getting stuck a little.

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Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
"I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."


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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

Rimas Kudelis
Hi,

2014.12.22 22:25, Gordon Dickens wrote:
> I've got a FreeBSD 10.1 testing installation and I first tried to use
> php55 and encountered problems, however, its been awhile since I set
> it up so I don't remember exactly what the problems were.  To my best
> recollection,  some extensions or pear modules that I needed were not
> yet available but I can't say for sure.  In any event, I ended up just
> swtiching to php5 (5.4.35) instead. I'm using Apache24 without any issues.

Could it have been Peer:DB maybe? This is something I've already
replaced with PDO in Vexim last year, but Exim4U hasn't picked up this
change.

BTW I'm currently thinking about rewriting the whole web-facing Vexim
app, building it on some sort of a framework, with proper MVC
separation. I wonder if using a bigger framework as a base would
discourage Exim4U or end users from adopting that rewrite. What do you
think?

Rimas



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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

Odhiambo Washington
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I finally got it running with php55 although I have some raw php stuff on the admin UI when editing a user.

On the "Forward mail to", I get

!
\n"; ?>



On 22 December 2014 at 23:25, Gordon Dickens <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Odhiambo,

I've got a FreeBSD 10.1 testing installation and I first tried to use php55 and encountered problems, however, its been awhile since I set it up so I don't remember exactly what the problems were.  To my best recollection,  some extensions or pear modules that I needed were not yet available but I can't say for sure.  In any event, I ended up just swtiching to php5 (5.4.35) instead. I'm using Apache24 without any issues.

FYI,

Gordon




On 12/22/2014 02:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Is anyone already usinh exim4u with php55 under Apache24?

I am getting stuck a little.

--
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
"I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."


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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

gldickens3
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Hi Rimas,

Sorry, but I don't remember for sure which module(s) that it was. I had
noticed that you replaced Pear::DB though...  BTW, I am currently
sorting though the Vexim patches that have been made since 2012 and I am
patching Exim4U with many of your patches and improvements.  It may be a
while before I'm done but I hope to have most of the patches implemented
soon.  Thanks!

I concur that there are advantages to moving away from php to some type
of framework or forms generator. There are subtle differences in Vexim
and Exim4U, particularly related to the exim configuration and how/when
spam and viruses are processed, that would need to be reconciled for the
same development work to easily be applied to both projects.  I am sure
that we could work that out though.

Gordon



On 12/24/2014 06:29 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2014.12.22 22:25, Gordon Dickens wrote:
>> I've got a FreeBSD 10.1 testing installation and I first tried to use
>> php55 and encountered problems, however, its been awhile since I set
>> it up so I don't remember exactly what the problems were.  To my best
>> recollection,  some extensions or pear modules that I needed were not
>> yet available but I can't say for sure.  In any event, I ended up just
>> swtiching to php5 (5.4.35) instead. I'm using Apache24 without any issues.
> Could it have been Peer:DB maybe? This is something I've already
> replaced with PDO in Vexim last year, but Exim4U hasn't picked up this
> change.
>
> BTW I'm currently thinking about rewriting the whole web-facing Vexim
> app, building it on some sort of a framework, with proper MVC
> separation. I wonder if using a bigger framework as a base would
> discourage Exim4U or end users from adopting that rewrite. What do you
> think?
>
> Rimas
>
>
>
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> users mailing list
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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

gldickens3
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Hi Odhiambo,

I admire your determination and persistence!  Sorry, but I have no idea why php55 is doing that.  Please let me know if you find a resolution though.

Thanks,

Gordon



On 12/24/2014 07:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I finally got it running with php55 although I have some raw php stuff on the admin UI when editing a user.

On the "Forward mail to", I get

!
\n"; ?>



On 22 December 2014 at 23:25, Gordon Dickens <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Odhiambo,

I've got a FreeBSD 10.1 testing installation and I first tried to use php55 and encountered problems, however, its been awhile since I set it up so I don't remember exactly what the problems were.  To my best recollection,  some extensions or pear modules that I needed were not yet available but I can't say for sure.  In any event, I ended up just swtiching to php5 (5.4.35) instead. I'm using Apache24 without any issues.

FYI,

Gordon




On 12/22/2014 02:50 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Is anyone already usinh exim4u with php55 under Apache24?

I am getting stuck a little.

--
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
"I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."


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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

Shamim Shahriar
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On 24/12/2014 12:58, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I finally got it running with php55 although I have some raw php stuff on the admin UI when editing a user.

On the "Forward mail to", I get

!
\n"; ?>

please change in php.ini
short_open_tag = On

that should do the trick.

Thanks

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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

Rimas Kudelis
2014.12.26 19:47, Shamim Shahriar rašė:

>
> On 24/12/2014 12:58, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>> I finally got it running with php55 although I have some raw php
>> stuff on the admin UI when editing a user.
>>
>> On the "Forward mail to", I get
>>
>> !
>> \n"; ?>
>>
>
> please change in php.ini
> short_open_tag = On
>
> that should do the trick.

If that's the case, then I suppose applying this patch should fix the
problem as well:
https://github.com/avleen/vexim2/commit/4ea7976eba359a26e4a417a06d16996b3886fc94

Regards,
Rimas

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Re: exim4u with Apache24, php55

Rimas Kudelis
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Hi Gordon,

2014.12.26 18:44, Gordon Dickens wrote:
> Sorry, but I don't remember for sure which module(s) that it was. I
> had noticed that you replaced Pear::DB though...  BTW, I am currently
> sorting though the Vexim patches that have been made since 2012 and I
> am patching Exim4U with many of your patches and improvements.  It may
> be a while before I'm done but I hope to have most of the patches
> implemented soon.  Thanks!

I think porting your changes to our codebase instead might be feasible
as well. If I remember correctly, you have some additional
fields/functionalities which don't exist in stock Vexim, but the last
time I checked, the biggest differences were your use of Bootstrap and
our use of PDO, and if we don't go with the rewrite, I'd very much like
to apply that Bootstrap patch to our repository anyway.

> I concur that there are advantages to moving away from php to some
> type of framework or forms generator. There are subtle differences in
> Vexim and Exim4U, particularly related to the exim configuration and
> how/when spam and viruses are processed, that would need to be
> reconciled for the same development work to easily be applied to both
> projects.  I am sure that we could work that out though.

One of the reasons why I want to rewrite Vexim is simply to learn
something new (a framework in this case). Currently, I'm facing a
dilemma which framework to choose. In particular:
* does framework's size matter? For example, Yii2 take up about 20MB,
which might appear too much for our small application.
* does framework's license matter? E.g. Fat-Free Framework (F3) is
rather small, but uses GPLv3. If I choose F3, I assume it would mean
licensing the new version of Vexim under GPLv3 as well. I wonder if that
would be a problem for anyone.

Regarding your second sentence in this paragraph, I assume it refers to
Exim config files, and not the Vexim admin app, right? Hm, perhaps we
should move the app into its own repository...

Rimas



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